013August 5, 2026
What it means to be punk
with Garrett Howitson
Two hours on punk — both the sound and the posture, and whether it can survive being defined. Do artists give up punk once they sign a record deal? Garrett makes the case for anti-establishment as something more considered than contrarian, and along the way talked me out of an idea I'd been carrying about the word angsty. His dad stopped by the studio partway through, which turned the conversation somewhere neither of us planned.